Islam basically is acceptance. And this acceptance is not exactly identical with the Christian faith. Islam has—this is what interests me very much—in the Islamic perception of the mystery, I would say it is more open to the mystery: that God can also destroy. There’s no happy end guaranteed.”

Bernard Sartorius is a Jungian Analyst based in Zurich and a scholar of Islamic Studies. In this episode, we’re investigating individuation and Islamic faith, in relation to Christianity. We discuss psychological agnosticism, religious fundamentalism, and Jung’s difficulties with surrendering. How he, in the context of a dream shared in the biography ‘Memories, dreams, reflections’ grapples with bowing in front of the mystery.

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Bernard Sartorius holds a University degree in theology (Geneva), a Diploma of Jungian analysis from the CG Jung Institute, Zurich, and has more than 40 years experience of Analytical practice in Geneva and Zurich. He is a training and supervising analyst at ISAP (International school of Analytical Psychology) Zurich and has recently been a traveling lecturer to many other countries including Russia, Ukraine, and Georgia. He has a growing interest in Islamic studies and has undertaken many field trips to Syria, Egypt, Tunis, and Morocco. He is married and has one daughter.


Music played in this episode, ‘Roam’, ‘Chrystal life’ and ‘Aimless by Ketsa. Licensed under by NC-ND 4.0.

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